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I don't get it....I really...don't....

Ms Spook
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So I use to like anime, I really did.

And then I started seeing how people started saying how they fall in love with the characters.

I don't get how you could "fall in love" with a 2-d character....it's not scientifically possible.

I've seen a few people in the GC say they fall for comic book characters too.

Which I personally think is bull...but...

If someone could be so kind as to explain this to me? :/








Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:14 pm

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I don't think it's the characters as in the actual bit of paper itself they fall for (hehe), but their personality..
Kind of like what they'd be like if they were a real person. How they imagine that person to be in their head- probably because real life people lack all the awesome traits of anime characters. x.x



Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:46 pm

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But then you have the people saying they're hot. >>

And if you go out and look there are plenty of people with awesome personality traits. Sure they don't have magical powers but that doesn't make them any less awesome :]








Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:50 pm

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They fall in love with anime/comic book/video game characters because
their artists like to make them look more attractive than real life human beings.

That and some people are too geeky to get a real girlfriend =V

I admit, I have a (small) crush on Rera from Samurai Shodown, but I know that she isn't real and thus impossible to have a relationship with her, so it's more of a "She's a cool character" thing.

It's weird, I know but you just have to accept the fact that some people are nerds. That's all the explanation you need =V



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Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:55 pm

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I get what you mean, but maybe it's like a reality escape for some people. Thinking, 'what if we COULD have magical powers?' It's nice to imagine ^^

And as for people finding them hot; it does seem illogical for someone to fall for a 2D character, but I suppose the answer lays within a thorough study of human physcology; there's something about them that makes them attractive.. o.o



Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:57 pm

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I dunno, like...I totally get if it was a character that had kick ass computer animation. Like I sometimes find some of the Final Fantasy character semi attractive.

But they also look semi real.








Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:06 pm

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I wouldn't say it's not scientifically possible.
Love is just a series of chemical reactions designed to cause attachment to and pleasure in the presence of another noun. Just because you can't hold them or speak with them doesn't make it any less real in the eyes of the infatuated; think of celebrities more devoted fans, or stalkers who've never spoken to their victims, or for a less extreme example, people in long-distance relationships. Their long-distance lover may exist as nothing more than a face on a screen or a voice on a phone to them, but (as they will be VERY quick to tell you if you try any of this 'that's not real' stuff on them) they love that voice fiercely.

Imagine you're a stalker with a crush.
Imagine your intended is a conglomeration of all the traits you love in the human race, a perfect charicature of beauty and kindness and wit specifically designed and tested by marketers to make onlookers want to give them a huge penis hug, without any of those annoying things real people have like moods or personality flaws or not liking you because you smell like ass and old Pocky.
Imagine you can never get caught or hurt, and that you can watch this adorable/manly/fierce/sexy/name-your-stereotype blob go about their life as much as you want, over and over and over, and never be rejected.

This is a much-abbreviated, much-decreepified rundown of the explanation I've gotten from screaming, white-knighting otaku over the years. If you'll excuse me, I have to go shower for six hours and think about puppies.


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Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:27 pm

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Actually, much the hopeless romantic that I am, love is caused by pheromones that react to the immune system. This is triggered by different smells that subconsciously tell you if you are sexually attracted to said person.

This is what makes us different. For example one might smell good to you but your sister, on the other hand, might think he smells like poo.

And as far as the whole celebrity crush theory and such. It's real people. As said before, they look real. Can be touch, have pictures taken with. It's on a completely different level.

I'm not trying to sound harsh but the only way I could see this being a scientific possibility is if the smell of ink and printer paper turns someone on. :[








Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:43 pm

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I see where you're coming from. I agree, I don't see how anyone can say they've 'fallen in love' with a character and genuinely mean it, but then, it's never really happened to me. I've thought a character is incredibly awesomeand obsessed but never romantically was interested.
Usually people who say they've 'fallen in love' with a character can just mean they like them and are being a bit overdramatic about it.

However, on the other hand, I can say that it's not scientifically impossible.
What I don't understand is how can you lovea cahracter that doesn't interact with YOU? If you fall in love with a character from a dating game because it seems you're talking directly to them and vice versa, it's different.
I mean, I fell in love with my boyfriend and I haven't even physically met him. Shouldn't that be scientifically impossible? I fell for his personality, I fell for him without images, not with words, but the feeling I got behind those words. The sense of 'someone'. I was in love with him before I even knew what he looked like, sounded like... all that jazz. I think I even knew the minute me and him met. I just had a 'feeling'.

On the whole "smell" thing... I think love runs deeper than that.
Like I said, I truly love my boyfriend. I really do. I know that that word is thrown around and I didn't realise how much until it actually happens to you. I realise that love can change when we meet, but that doesn't matter, I love him now. Not any fantasy of him, not anything he isn't or anything I'm pretending he is, but him.
.... However, responding to that theory, when I eventually did get something with his smell (his tee) ....lord... he smells so good...
No one else can see it, but I just think he smells so comforting and homely and I wann curl up in his smell... So, I can sort of understand that theory too.

Sometimes "love" or similar feelings just happen(s). So in that sense... I can sort of understand how different types of love exist, at a stretch even weird ones like falling in love with a 2D character. :/ Though that doesn't mean I agree with it and it totally freaks me out when someone pretends to be said characters' love interest, i.e. from the show they're in but there we go.



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Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:26 pm

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I have been, and am, as a matter of fact, in love with two animated characters. One anime character (I began falling for him when he was just a manga character) and one of my own design from a series I'm still writing (in fact the man in my signature).

You're simply being too pragmatic. Love is not the scent of another - pheromones, if you will -- it's much more. If we were complete animals, that would be the case. But humans have evolved past this. If you believe you can love someone of the same sex, then you have to discard the "scent" theory, as scientifically, it's "wrong" to love the same sex. You can't mate with them, can you? And is that all love is? The desire to mate?

Hell, no. I don't believe so. I/we don't want kids and won't be having any. LOL.

Love is emotions, a feeling you get when someone interacts with you or, in an 'fake' character instance, someone that has beliefs you side with, acts in a way that is suitable for your needs.

I agree with Satsu, most people exaggerate when they say they're "in love with" a character. But for those of us that truly feel love and have been for more than a decade, it's not something to be taken lightly. I love my husband truly, and yet these two men touch something deeply in me. It's not a joke, not a crush and I won't call it that. What I feel goes deeper than that for them.

I also met my husband online and fell in love before meeting him, btw ;3

**edit: Here, if you're still confused as to why people might crush on anime guys...I wrote this a long time ago.
http://www.lemonfingers.com/v2/?c=2017&o=14

It doesn't explain love but crushes, and yet it may help for that anyway.


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Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:37 pm

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I never said it was just to mate. You can be sexually attracted to someone and NOT have the desire to have kids. And I didn't say love was only a physical thing. Yes, it's emotional too. I know that.

I can see why you might have a crush on a character YOU created because it is an interaction in your mind. You are creating this being this person and giving him situations to act out. Quiet possibly this could be the reason people develop crushes on comic book characters.

As said before, you don't have a back and forth interaction with said character. It's completely different from the examples you are giving me. Including meeting your husband on the internet.

Your husband was able to interact with you through the internet. With emotions and such portrayed through the text. This means a person physically has to accomplish something to be known as real. Such as the physical act of typing.

An anime/manga/cartoon character however cannot answer back when said "I love you" "What are you doing" ect.

Unless in ones mind.








Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:52 pm

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I was simply stating that if you thought it's based on smell, then why do we love people we can't smell - like my husband. Since you said you believed it was due to pheromones.

You're just not a romantic, I guess. (I don't mean this an an insult!) I do not give my beloved character situations to act out - he creates them on his own. Something no one but another creative person can understand, one who is deeply involved with their characters. They are much more than "incarnations of my own mind". In fact in said series I made a character to be the other's love interest. It fell through and this character - the antagonist -- became the love interest. I had no clue it would happen.

All I can state is you're thinking too much. I use my heart more. I feel love for Bastian, as I do for Zoro. The character can't tell me he loves me, no. But neither did my husband before I loved him. I loved how he acted, how he looked, how he sounded, his morals, etc. Things I can also relate to a character.


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Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:58 pm

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Laughing I overthink things all the time and even *I* understand how one can have a great deal of care for supposedly "imaginary" characters. Of course, I'm also one of those odd people with a very broad definition of reality which doesn't exclude "imaginary" characters. In a sense, loving "imaginary" characters is little different than loving a deity that you worship. They don't "exist" in the same sense that we do, but they still exist in a meaningful way that we can interact with and that is real to us on some level.



Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:13 pm

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I dunno. I know i'm not claiming to know everything. I understand how one can like a character, think they're cool and what not.

But love seems on a different plane to me. I am a romantic. I'm a writer. I draw. I've liked my characters. And I have been proud of a character in a story.

I've also changed plot situations in a story, going along with what Elly said.

To me, I believe faith is just that. Faith. And I am one who partakes in faith. I dunno. Heh, maybe I should have put this in the debate forum :]








Post Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:35 pm

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M/B they just fall for the charcters personalities and if there was someone like that irl they would totally love them. Or if they charcter looks totally niiicee then I can understand why someone would like that person and m/b someone that looks sexy likee that in a anime would be the perfect person in real life.

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